Vestry Minutes
RE Lee Memorial Episcopal Church

September 15, 2008

The regular monthly meeting of the Vestry of R. E. Lee Memorial Church was held Monday, September 15, 2008, at 5:00 p.m. in the Parish Hall of the church.

Present: Buddy Atkins, George Brooke, Molly Brown, John Burleson, Jay Crawford, Roger Crockett, Susan Cross, Bob Glidden, Elizabeth Harralson, Julia Littlefield, Dick Rathmell, Woody Sadler, The Rev. Thomas Crittenden, and Gail Dick, clerk

Absent: Bridget Kelley-Dearing, John Milford and Gretchen Walden

Recognition of the Sexton: At 5:00 George Brooke recognized Connie Bryant for her outstanding work at R. E. Lee Church. The recommendation came specifically from the Property Committee because of the initiative that Connie took and the many hours and extra effort spent in cleaning up the undercroft after the boilers had been removed and the tile had been taken up off the floor. She was presented a check for her faithfulness and extra hours spent.

Lesson and Eucharist: Susan Cross and John Burleson read the scripture according to Matthew 18:21-35. Time was given for reflection and discussion. Tom asked for any prayer requests and celebrated the Eucharist.

Sharon Massie was originally on the agenda for this evening but will present her program “Safeguarding God’s Children” at the end of the October Vestry meeting.

Approval of Minutes: The August minutes were approved as distributed. No discussion.

Committee Reports:

  • Finance Committee:  Presentation of 2009 Budget by Buddy Atkins. Buddy presented a proposed 2009 budget. Copies were circulated among the Vestry members. Buddy emphasized that this is a preliminary budget only and will be reworked after the results of the Every Member Canvass are in. A 10%-12% increase in income is going to be needed for this budget to balance. Parishioners will be asked to consider this amount of increase in their pledges for 2009. One of the biggest issues is a cost of living increase in salaries of 2%-3%. This may need to go higher. Another unexpected large expense for this year will be the repointing of church. The expense of the scaffolding alone will be about $26,000. The draw on endowments next year will increase from 4% to 5%. The Finance Committee is struggling with this. Elizabeth wondered why no increase was shown for utilities. It was noted that improvements have been made in the thermostats and Yellow Brick Road has moved to a new location. (A copy of the preliminary budget is attached to these minutes.) No action needs to be taken at this point.                                                                                                               

      • Rev. Tom has figured that when considering expenditures from the church’s operating budget, Gadsden and ECW, 27% is committed to outreach. This is commendable but a large percentage for a church of our size.
      • Bob said he intends to ask Gadsden for the allowable amount of 25% of their present year revenue ($15,000) for church facilities improvement, specifically the repointing of the masonry; the biggest expense being putting up the scaffolding. Woody has submitted five or six applications for grants to different organizations for the repointing.

Action: Buddy moved, John Burleson seconded, that Bob ask Gadsden for the allowable $15,000.

Discussion:

Roger spoke on behalf of Gadsden cautioning the Vestry to be careful not to rely too much on Gadsden. Elizabeth said that the Trustees gave approval for three years for the Vestry to ask for Gadsden funds.

Motion revised to ask the Trustees for permission to go to Gadsden for approval of funds for facility improvements. Motion passed with ten in favor and two abstentions.

  • Property Committee:  John Burleson has contacted a roofer. He has looked at the joints, leaks, small drain gutters. The front outside wall at the parish hall front entrance is pulling away from the building. Repairing this will be an additional expense to the budget. There has been a proposal to hire a consultant to evaluate the lighting for safety and security. The cost for this consultant was going to be $5700. The Property Committee felt this fee was too high and wants to study it more. The Property Committee’s recommendation is to wait another month on the lighting. The lighting in the nave is also being looked at. There is a need to replace the globes on the lights in the nave. The Committee also wants to wait another month on this. The Sunday School windows  have not yet been installed but are in the process of being evaluated. As previously mentioned, the cost for the scaffolding to repoint the steeple is $13,000 to do the front and $13,000 to do the back, representing a total cost of $26,000 which is an unexpected expense. A very rough estimate has been received from Tom Hart to finish out the undercroft – the floor, section off space, ground insulation and ceiling -- considering the possibility of the choral rehearsal and music director’s office being moved there. Much discussion followed regarding the undercroft and the state that it is in right now and that it needs to be finished at some point.

The Property Committee is changing its regularly scheduled meeting from Monday night to the first Wednesday night of the month.

  • Columbarium:  Dick Rathmell had previously circulated a report to the Vestry and also a document “Policies Governing the Columbarium and Memorial Garden of R.E. Lee Memorial Episcopal Church” (see attached). George had several questions about the referral to an “official church person” in the policies document. After some discussion:

 Action: Dick moved to accept the “Policies Governing the Columbarium and Memorial Garden of R.E. Lee Memorial Episcopal Church” after corrections. Motion passed with ten   in favor and two abstentions.

  • Green Committee: Elizabeth reported that Prof. James Kahn, professor at W&L’s Williams School of Commerce, will be speaking in the Parish Hall on Wed., Nov. 12, at 7:30 pm. His expertise is in the economics of the environment. The talk will be open to the public

The Committee hopes to have a speaker quarterly. We are interested in inviting Michael Bentley            from St. James, Roanoke, and/or Paul Bugas from Trinity, Staunton. They presented an excellent             PowerPoint presentation at Council in January on water conservation. Suggestions in addition           have been someone from Rockbridge Grown, a local produce action group; and perhaps a program on what Washington and Lee is doing to become greener. James Kahn is chairing that         committee and may be of some help to us.

      The Green Committee is beginning the process of exploring using real mugs for adults and   reusable unbreakable cups for kids for coffee and lemonade at the church. Issues to be resolved are: a rack, perhaps on wheels, for these items; who would be responsible for washing and         putting them back on the rack; how to pay for them. The Committee will be in touch with Bob          Crewdson, Mayumi Smitka, the Noells of lemonade brigade, & Jerry Nay - for different reasons.

The Committee would like to explore how other churches are engaged in environmental efforts. They would also like to know what other Episcopal churches in our diocese are doing.

They would like to ask James Kahn if there are ways that Canterbury can assist the W&L green efforts as a group project.

Molly also mentioned the hazardous waste pick-up day which is September 27th. The Green Committee asked that this be in the church bulletin for two successive Sundays prior to this date.

Old Business:

  • Discussion on Vestry structure: The size of the Vestry was discussed at length. Now is the time to see if we want to gradually downsize from 15 members to 12 or fewer over the course of several years. If the Vestry does decide to downsize, Tom is open to having a called meeting to discuss this matter with two definite goals in mind: 1) efficiency of the Vestry and 2) recruitment of qualified persons. This would have to be decided soon as Vestry elections are coming up for the next year. The possibility of having Vestry leadership as chairpersons of the committees of the church was discussed as an option. Also, the decision needs to be made on how large the Vestry should be in order to be both representative and efficient. This subject will be put on the agenda for the October meeting.

  • Signage:  Bob talked with Pam about placement of the new church sign. A couple of options were shared. He also mentioned that he has a parishioner wishing to donate the sign. Bob passed around pictures of two sign possibilities and discussed a third. Placement possibilities were also discussed. Discussion on this to be continued.

New Business:

  • Vestry recruiting:  It is customary, and Tom so moved, that we have the outgoing class of Vestry members (Buddy Atkins, John Burleson, Roger Crockett, Gretchen Walden and Bob Glidden) serve as the nominating committee for Vestry elections for 2009, including the nomination of officers for the new Vestry. John Burleson has been asked to serve as chair of the nominating committee.
  • Committees for 2009Bob noted that we need an ad hoc Committee to review the membership of the standing committees of the church—a Committee on Committees. Bob asked George to chair that committee and Molly Brown, Susan Cross, Jay Crawford and Julia Littlefield to serve as members.
  • Request to Join “Club 157” in Sudan: Buddy said that a couple had made a pledge to the Capital Campaign for a spend-down fund for a mission trip to the Sudan. Since there were not enough pledges to that particular item in the Campaign, they would like to dedicate those funds ($1000) to a fund to assist the Anglican Church in Sudan called “Club 157.”   

Action:  Buddy moved and George seconded that this $1000 be sent to Club 157 in Sudan. The motion passed unanimously.

  • Audit Firm for 2009:  The accounting firm used by R. E. Lee Church in the past, because of lack of personnel within the firm, is dropping some clients, R. E. Lee Church among them. Buddy is awaiting a proposal from another local accounting firm to take on an annual financial review for the parish. When that proposal is received Buddy will present it to the Vestry for action, perhaps in October but certainly by November. In the interim, the 2007 review recently completed will be presented to the Finance Committee for the members to review and submit to the Vestry.

Comments by the Wardens:  None

Comments by the Rector:  Tom shared some highlights of his recent trip to Florida with his son Joseph. The purpose of the trip was for Tom to serve as the clergy counsel for a high school Cursillo weekend called “Happening”.

 Adjournment:  Meeting adjourned at 7:15.

Closing Prayer:  Buddy closed with prayer.

Next meeting:   5 p.m., October 20, 2008.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Gail G. Dick, Clerk